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Post Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:30 pm

It seems I might have got the wrong end of the stick. I was told that:

"power reqmnt for each non-buggered venue was pretty much identical"

I didn't know Hanson was considered "buggered".. Goes to show how little I know about track cycling!
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Post Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:46 pm

Daimo wrote:Goes to show how little I know about track cycling!

You dont need to know anything about track to know the surface at Hanson is shagged. Its plenty bad on a road bike with nice stable handling, so I'm confident its worse on a twitchy track bike.

If you'd like to get an idea of the surface without actually being there, let your roadie tyres down to ~50psi and go for a ride :P .
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Post Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:03 pm

Matt D wrote:You dont need to know anything about track to know the surface at Hanson is shagged. Its plenty bad on a road bike with nice stable handling, so I'm confident its worse on a twitchy track bike.

If you'd like to get an idea of the surface without actually being there, let your roadie tyres down to ~50psi and go for a ride :P .


Dude, I've never been there so perhaps you'd like to cut me some slack??
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Post Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:46 pm

Daimo wrote:Dude, I've never been there so perhaps you'd like to cut me some slack??

I did :grin: see the bit where I suggest how you may simulate the surface?

You wouldn't like racing on this crumb rubbish if it was a road surface either :evil:
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Post Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:09 am

Has anyone looked into the effects of the rubber surface in the event of a fall? Isn't the rubber surface far more grippy than asphalt or boards? At +50km/h it would probably grip on your skin as you slide far more than the other surfaces.
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Post Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:23 am

Pete Davis wrote:Has anyone looked into the effects of the rubber surface in the event of a fall?

yep, runners at 20-30kph get ripped up by it pretty badly. Riders at 60+ are probably going to find it uncomfortable to say the least. Strangely we've had difficulty finding anyone willing to lay it down for the cause, but I suspect the surface will tear big holes in the unfortunate person, and cause significant internal injuries (likely joint damage and muscle tears) due to the effects of one bit decellerating rapidly while other bits are still trying to go down the track at high speed.
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Post Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:28 pm

Surface, speed, safety

Sounds to me that if anyone can do 60+ on this stuff then they wouldn't be riding on it anyway if you follow my drift.

Wasn't the original reason proferred by the non-cycling fraternity for laying down this surface to make falls less injurious than asphalt?
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Post Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:26 pm

Re: Surface, speed, safety

stuc wrote:Sounds to me that if anyone can do 60+ on this stuff then they wouldn't be riding on it anyway if you follow my drift.

Wasn't the original reason proferred by the non-cycling fraternity for laying down this surface to make falls less injurious than asphalt?


No, that was not the reason. It was because they were unable to find a bitumen provider willing to do the work. But yes, the product is more typically used for "soft fall" areas, eg in kindys and under play equipment...
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:38 am

For those with an interest in the Hanson Track (PACC's 'home' track!)

Council have just announced that the 65m+ long 'test strip' has been laid to their satisfaction, so it is now time for us to have a look at the new proposed remediated surfacing, so we can advise whether it's up to racing standard or not.

Those with an interest in trying out the new surface, let me know, so that we can arrange a key to go check it out.

For those that have not had the opportunity to ride Hanson, unlike Edwardstown it has proper lights so you can race and train there all year round, under lights. Eg Winter motorpacing etc!!
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:46 am

Gemm wrote:Those with an interest in trying out the new surface, let me know, so that we can arrange a key to go check it out.

In order to be more time useful, a group booking perhaps?
Since there's little else track on, what do people think of next Thurs night?
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:08 pm

Thursday night 26th is no good for me.
How about any other night of the week :-)

We will need to do it as a group, because we need a key to get in!
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:48 pm

Any night next week is good for me.
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:53 pm

Gemm wrote:Thursday night 26th is no good for me.
How about any other night of the week :-)

We will need to do it as a group, because we need a key to get in!


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Post Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:21 pm

Any night next week should be good for me :smile:
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Post Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:47 pm

OK Howabouts Wednesday 25th March, 6:30pm lock it in Eddie.

This is at the Hanson Reserve Velodrome, Woodville Gardens. Gate is off Fixth Ave, or if that is locked try the gate around the corner on fifth ave which is where the club rooms are.

I believe the only current PACCer to have ridden Hanson lately is Belly.... (triathlon training sessions) so he might get a preview of the remediated surface there?
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